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| | children of Caroline Wren and John Ball | |
| | Margaret E. Ball born 1849 born 1849, Hastings, Sussex baptized 20 December 1848, All Saints, Hastings married 4 January 1871 Ick. John William Tillman 3 1845-1909 fisherman |
| John Ball 1851-1883 born 1851, Hastings baptized 31 January 1852, All Saints, Hastings died 20 May 1883 married 23 June 1874 St. Leonards Bridget Jane Morris 1851-1925 |
| Richard Ball circa 1854-1929 born circa 1854, Hastings died 15 February 1929 married 30 July 1876 All Saints Church, Hastings Elizabeth Boyce 1856-1933 |
| Henry Ball born 1856 born 1856, Hastings baptized 10 March 1858, All Saints, Hastings married 22 December 1877 All Saints Church, Hastings Harriet Morfee born circa 1857 |
| William Wren Ball born 1858 born 1858, Hastings married 1878 Hastings Lois Foord 4 born circa 1860 laundress (1881) |
| James H. Ball 5 born 1862 fisherman 6 born 1862, Hastings, Sussex 7 married 20 January 1884 St. Mary in the Castle, Hastings Elizabeth Frances Murray |
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